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		<title>chapter 13: what will &#8216;they&#8217; think of this?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 21:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Concerns about &#8216;fitting in&#8217;, &#8216;honors&#8217;, &#8216;what others will think&#8217; and so on, can do such damage! It&#8217;s especially insidious because dishonor can be mistaken for a loss of your own personal integrity, and not fitting in can be mistaken for not being part of the human community. But honors are external and are not real [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Concerns about &#8216;fitting in&#8217;, &#8216;honors&#8217;, &#8216;what others will think&#8217; and so on, can do such damage!  It&#8217;s especially insidious because dishonor can be mistaken for a loss of your own personal integrity, and not fitting in can be mistaken for not being part of the human community.</p>
<p>But honors are external and are not real anyway.  The &#8216;self&#8217; of self-importance is not your own person.</p>
<p>The student is not the grade they receive, and an athlete is not the Olympic gold.  Public office is bestowed&#8211;or not&#8211;and is easily lost even if it&#8217;s gained.  If we become deeply invested in any of these, we are setting ourselves up for a constant fear that obscures what really matters.</p>
<p>Anything that happens in the public eye can be like that.  What will &#8216;they&#8217; think of this speech?  This act?  This sentence?  This post? &#8211;But have I said what I know in my heart?  If I do say it, then I&#8217;m untouchable.</p>
<p>This kind of untouchability which will not allow someone to be dishonest with his own person, is what makes someone trustworthy.  This kind of untouchability is what we yearn for, in our leaders.  We don&#8217;t want leaders who are blown about by every change in public opinion.  We want leaders who stand true as they respond to world events, who know that sometimes their response will be unpopular and who are swayed by neither favor nor disfavor.<br />
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<p><em><br />
when honor<br />
is bound up with our sense of self<br />
both gaining it and losing it<br />
fill us with fear</em></p>
<p><em>we fear we won&#8217;t gain it<br />
we dread losing it<br />
because of a limited sense of self</em></p>
<p><em>without self-importance<br />
what dishonor can touch us?</em></p>
<p><em>if there is nothing<br />
for which he would damage his person<br />
someone might be entrusted with the world</em></p>
<p><em> </em></p>
<p><em>because he cherishes his person<br />
the world can be given to his care</em></p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><em>— Kye Nelson: translation and commentary on Lao Tzu&#8217;s <strong>Tao Te Ching</strong> </em></p>
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		<title>chapter 7: selflessness and self-realization</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 20:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kye</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Often the Tao Te Ching seems to be skipping around all over the place. Chapter 5 was the &#8216;straw dog&#8217; chapter. There, heaven-and-earth are said to be &#8216;inhumane&#8217;. Then comes a detour to &#8216;valley spirit&#8217; and &#8216;Great Mother&#8217; in chapter 6, which is often translated so it seems the whole life-process turns on &#8216;emptiness&#8217;. In [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Often the Tao Te Ching seems to be skipping around all over the place.</p>
<p>Chapter 5 was the &#8216;straw dog&#8217; chapter.  There, heaven-and-earth are said to be &#8216;inhumane&#8217;.  Then comes a detour to &#8216;valley spirit&#8217; and &#8216;Great Mother&#8217; in chapter 6, which is often translated so it seems the whole life-process turns on &#8216;emptiness&#8217;.  In chapter 7 we&#8217;re back to heaven-and-earth again: this time, heaven-and-earth are said to be &#8216;not self-interested.&#8217;</p>
<p>In this common reading, &#8216;inhumane&#8217; and &#8216;not self-interested&#8217; are uneasy bedfellows and the Valley Spirit chapter seems to be stuck in between them arbitrarily.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s actually a nice sequence to the chapters starting to show up when I stay strictly with how the text can make sense from inside the experience of my own life process.  Read this way, &#8216;inhumane&#8217; could actually be <a href="http://nu.umin.us/tao/?p=108" target="_blank">an invitation to a heartfelt, near-instinctive reverence</a> for the natural world and human beings as part of it, instead of the rule-based &#8216;goodness&#8217; (see chapter 5 commentary) implied by the word &#8216;humane&#8217;.  The core quality of the &#8216;Great Mother&#8217; could be <a href="http://nu.umin.us/tao/?p=137" target="_blank">&#8216;devotion&#8217; instead of &#8216;emptiness&#8217;</a>.  We&#8217;re beginning to uncover a different, more heart-centered way of reading the Tao Te Ching.</p>
<p>And chapter 7 builds so easily on this!  The chapter tells us that the sage acts without self-interest and thereby <em>has himself</em>.  I <em>know</em> that experience of acting without self-interest, and having myself more fully in those moments.  So how does that <em>happen</em>? -what&#8217;s going on there?</p>
<p>Immediately I get right back to devotion!  When I&#8217;m devoted, my whole being is acting for the sake of something that matters; something I care about in a sustained way.  And that devotion is self-sustaining.  It feeds on itself.  I&#8217;m energized by my devotion.</p>
<p>I think about the mother Inca dove I watched feeding her two fledglings in my windowsill a few weeks ago&#8230;  And the trees pumping sap up to the new buds, a few weeks before that.  This beautiful world is fueled by devotion, if you look just below the surface!</p>
<p>Turns out we may actually <em>need</em> the valley spirit chapter in between &#8216;inhumane&#8217; and &#8216;not self-interested&#8217;: with it, the whole thing opens up beautifully.</p>
<p><em><br />
heaven is eternal<br />
earth endures</em></p>
<p><em> </em></p>
<p>why? what is their secret?</p>
<p>because they don&#8217;t live for themselves<br />
they are long-lived</p>
<p>thus the sage puts his self in the background<br />
and yet finds his self in the foreground<br />
treats his self as incidental<br />
and his self is safe</p>
<p><em>is this not because<br />
he has no thought of self?<br />
thus, he has the power<br />
to realize himself.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: right;"><em>— Kye Nelson: translation and commentary on Lao Tzu&#8217;s <strong>Tao Te Ching</strong> </em></p>
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